tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post4307791691760344486..comments2024-01-05T04:13:16.946-06:00Comments on The Character Therapist: Treatment Tuesday - A Teen Mother's "Brother"Jeannie Campbell, LMFThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13958943404601029395noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-25178458518854395932009-12-16T15:18:42.964-06:002009-12-16T15:18:42.964-06:00Love the term "pantster" and glad to fin...Love the term "pantster" and glad to find out there's a real term for how I write... <br /><br />Ha. I'm a pantster.<br /><br />The way I've always explained is that I am watching a movie in my head and am just there to take notes.Sharon Kendrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001691381155082817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-80638605450752115652009-12-15T14:58:29.855-06:002009-12-15T14:58:29.855-06:00thanks, ladies!
steena - i'm glad this has b...thanks, ladies! <br /><br />steena - i'm glad this has been helpful. that's all i'm out to do. :)Jeannie Campbell, LMFThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13958943404601029395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-73198803958310987792009-12-15T14:48:54.825-06:002009-12-15T14:48:54.825-06:00Wow, that's a fascinating story. There's a...Wow, that's a fascinating story. There's a lot to "play" with as a writer. Thanks for sharing it!Kristen Torres-Torohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903038121623389560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-18820034005925833952009-12-15T14:39:16.271-06:002009-12-15T14:39:16.271-06:00That does sound interesting! Great job Steena.
:-...That does sound interesting! Great job Steena. <br />:-)Jessica Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12365768876905444157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-4631928449044018032009-12-15T13:32:01.940-06:002009-12-15T13:32:01.940-06:00Thank you! She was in therapy, so I see where you...Thank you! She was in therapy, so I see where you are going. <br />Thank you! You've helped so much!Steenahttp://www.steenaholmes.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-35582106550408399612009-12-15T13:23:50.318-06:002009-12-15T13:23:50.318-06:00if she felt like she has somehow encouraged stan, ...if she felt like she has somehow encouraged stan, that would make ALL the difference in the world. she'd have this internal manta that she wasn't a "good" person deep inside, that she had gotten what she deserved (which could definitely be reiterated by stan after the fact that he forced himself on her. many rapists say this to their victims..."you asked for it.")<br /><br />glad you liked the fluke fame idea. :)<br /><br />if rhonda never got any kind of therapy, then this internalization of her lack of worth, her not deserving anything good (like a husband), would continue as long as need be. without intervention, things have a tendency to either stay the same or get <i> worse </i>. <br /><br />about the success, i think she'd see it as something she was undeserving of, as well. like it should have happened to someone else. (like, say, she was asked to do this cookbook b/c someone else backed out. that other person should have gotten recognition.) that sort of thinking....makes for such a wonderful, flawed character. but you wouldn't want to leave her that way....you'd want her to realize that the rape wasn't her fault at all. so even secondary characters need to have full character arcs.Jeannie Campbell, LMFThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13958943404601029395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-65087255023120883362009-12-15T13:09:49.115-06:002009-12-15T13:09:49.115-06:00Rhonda is a PK (preacher's kid). I'm wonde...Rhonda is a PK (preacher's kid). I'm wondering if she felt ashamed, thought she somehow gave Stan the impression ... I'm trying to place myself in her shoes as a 16 yr old who was just raped by her 'hero'. <br /><br />I like the idea of her fame being an accident, that coincides with who she is as a person - not expecting, not thinking she was good enough for it, always thinking that it was a fluke until it gained momentum ... <br /><br />would this aspect of her character continue to her 40's or would she outgrow it? Do you think that by the time I've met her in my story the success would have been a boost to her character and would have strengthened her as a person?Steenahttp://www.steenaholmes.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-7108351498725461202009-12-15T12:35:35.526-06:002009-12-15T12:35:35.526-06:00What a complicated story line. Eek. Thanks for the...What a complicated story line. Eek. Thanks for the analysis. This is one reason why I included you in a list of awards today. :]Tara McClendonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246124060126729229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-24135232144819007002009-12-15T12:31:00.902-06:002009-12-15T12:31:00.902-06:00steena - a pantster is someone who writes by the s...steena - a pantster is someone who writes by the seat of their pants. :) as opposed to a plotter. the reason i wrote that is because you said the relationship "surprised" you...like you hadn't planned for Rhonda to be Ned's mom. which is like you were typing out a scene and it just hit you, "WOW! this would be an awesome connection!" that's a pantster. and nothing wrong with it, either.<br /><br />sounds like you've got Ned's revelation already in place...and just like how i suggested. how good am i? :) your idea to have him see glimpses of her "slipping" is wonderful. while he's stewing over the hurt and shock, have him make a couple flashbacks...maybe to the wedding when she did something typically only the mother of the groom does--like maybe she begs him to dance with her or something. says how proud she is of him (which some older sisters do, not many). something like that.<br /><br />rhonda's reasons for not marrying definitely need to be explored. did the right guy just not come along? did she not want to have to lie to a husband about Ned? maybe after Ned's birth, she couldn't have children anymore and this devastated her...as she thought every man would want to have a family and she was incapable. what do YOU think? why would you ask if she felt "dirty?" millions of raped women get married...would they all feel dirty, or was there something in particular for Rhonda you're thinking of?<br /><br />and i really think her success should have been a total accident...something that surprised her. like a cookbook she made for church all of a sudden gaining an agent's interest or something, then thrusting her into the spotlight as some sort of rachel ray/paula dean or something. just something to think about.<br /><br />let's keep it going. i'm at work too...that's what "breaks" are for. :)Jeannie Campbell, LMFThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13958943404601029395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-51535992291303110702009-12-15T11:44:24.780-06:002009-12-15T11:44:24.780-06:00Jeannie - thank you! First off ... what is a panst...Jeannie - thank you! First off ... what is a panster????? <br /><br />I'm at work ... so I'll be digesting this in bundles ... I apologize for all the 'comments' I'll post ...LOL<br /><br />I have Ned finding out about the 'secret' from an old journal his wife wrote. Her last entry. You can imagine the heartache, the anger, the shock Ned experiences. He lashes out at Rhonda - who breaks down. I need Ned to wrestle with the forgiveness aspect of this lie. <br /><br />Ned has leaned on Rhonda for emotional support throughout his grieving process, to the point where I think he subconsciously views her in a mother type role. <br /><br />Rhonda - hasn't told a soul about her secret - she made a promise to her parents never to reveal it. She finally tells a friend who asks her how she dealt with having her 'motherhood' ripped from her. Your descriptions help - thank you. I have her wresting with her mom on this issue. I wonder if I should have Ned looking back and seeing instances where it 'slipped' at times - the roles.<br /><br />You know - I never thought about the wedding aspect. That adds a whole new dimension. Rhonda on the sidelines when she should be upfront. I wonder - does her mother ever relinquish this role for Rhonda? Does she ever regret it or does she take it on naturally?<br /><br />Do you think Rhonda never married because she felt 'dirty'? I want to explore the hero turned tormentor a bit more but I'm not sure how exactly. She will have felt betrayed, she can't trust again, insecure ... so how does she go from that to being a successful woman (who runs when Stan comes back in her life). <br /><br />Again ... thank you!!!!Steenahttp://www.steenaholmes.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7217391718085448472.post-31266759713681027022009-12-15T10:17:01.277-06:002009-12-15T10:17:01.277-06:00Wow, that sounds like an intense premise! Great ...Wow, that sounds like an intense premise! Great breakdown as always Jeannie.Nataliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00861022355718378425noreply@blogger.com